From lgj at usenix.org Fri Jun 1 14:41:46 2007 From: lgj at usenix.org (Lionel Garth Jones) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 14:41:46 -0700 Subject: 16th USENIX Security Symposium Registration Now Open Message-ID: <4660929A.5020302@usenix.org> ------------------------------------------------------------- 16th USENIX Security Symposium August 6-10, 2007 Boston, MA http://www.usenix.org/sec07/proga Early Bird Registration Deadline: July 16, 2007 ------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Colleague, I'm pleased to invite you to attend the 16th USENIX Security Symposium, August 6-10, 2007, in Boston, MA. Computer security today advances at an exceptional rate, as both its operational relevance and the tension between attackers and defenders continue to grow. New services, new systems, and new networking architectures continually add new dimensions to the field and subvert previously held assumptions. 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To change your contact information, please visit: http://www.usenix.org/membership/ If you have any questions about the mailing list, please send email to office at usenix.org. We may also be reached via postal mail at: USENIX Association 2560 9th Street, Suite 215 Berkeley CA 94710 (510) 528-8649 From david at catwhisker.org Mon Jun 4 12:25:42 2007 From: david at catwhisker.org (David Wolfskill) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 12:25:42 -0700 Subject: MX that points to CNAME instead of A? Message-ID: <20070604192542.GG44064@bunrab.catwhisker.org> One of the things my employer does is provide an email filtering service; this has historically been implemented by having a hostname (for each of our sites) that has several A records (one for each of our SMTP servers at the given site), then having the customers set up their MX records to point to each of these hostnames (with appropriate weights), e.g: [Our zone file...] mx.site1.example.net IN A 192.168.5.1 IN A 192.168.5.2 IN A 192.168.5.3 IN A 192.168.5.4 mx.site2.example.net IN A 192.168.6.1 IN A 192.168.6.2 IN A 192.168.6.3 IN A 192.168.6.4 mx.site3.example.net IN A 192.168.7.1 IN A 192.168.7.2 IN A 192.168.7.3 IN A 192.168.7.4 [Customer zone files...] customer1.example.com IN MX 10 mx.site1.example.net. IN MX 20 mx.site2.example.net. IN MX 20 mx.site3.example.net. customer2.example.com IN MX 10 mx.site2.example.net. IN MX 20 mx.site1.example.net. IN MX 20 mx.site3.example.net. customer3.example.com IN MX 10 mx.site3.example.net. IN MX 20 mx.site1.example.net. IN MX 20 mx.site2.example.net. This works, but involves a degree of uncertainty as to how a given message will actually flow, so there's some awkwardness in researching specific cases where (e.g.), it is alleged that a given message was received by our systems, but not received by our customer's systems. (Yes, I'm acutely aware of the value of logging to other systems, and have been advocating that for over a year. Hasn't happened yet; I'm not holding my breath.) So several weeks ago, certain folks at work decided that we needed to use Akamai to accomplish the "failover" instead of the above approach. Thus, in lieu of the above, we'd have somethinng like: [Our zone file...] mx.example.net IN CNAME mx.example.net.akadns.com. mx.example.net IN CNAME mx.example.net.akadns.com. mx.example.net IN CNAME mx.example.net.akadns.com. [Customer zone files...] customer1.example.com IN MX 10 mx.example.net. customer2.example.com IN MX 10 mx.example.net. customer3.example.com IN MX 10 mx.example.net. [Akamai stuff... $ORIGIN akadns.com. mx.example.net IN A 192.168.5.1 IN A 192.168.5.2 IN A 192.168.5.3 IN A 192.168.5.4 with the ability to switch, given certain criteria, to: mx.example.net IN A 192.168.6.1 IN A 192.168.6.2 IN A 192.168.6.3 IN A 192.168.6.4 or: mx.example.net IN A 192.168.7.1 IN A 192.168.7.2 IN A 192.168.7.3 IN A 192.168.7.4 Now, my recollection was that MX records need to refer to things that have A records -- nothing else need apply, certainly not CNAME records. So when our group was asked if we had any issues with the proposal, I was all set to rip it to shreds -- professionally, of course, as we had been informed that certain folks "high on the food chain" had a rather vested interest in the approach. But when I perused RFC 2821, what I found was: |5. Address Resolution and Mail Handling | | Once an SMTP client lexically identifies a domain to which mail will | be delivered for processing (as described in sections 3.6 and 3.7), a | DNS lookup MUST be performed to resolve the domain name [22]. The | names are expected to be fully-qualified domain names (FQDNs): | mechanisms for inferring FQDNs from partial names or local aliases | are outside of this specification and, due to a history of problems, | are generally discouraged. The lookup first attempts to locate an MX | record associated with the name. If a CNAME record is found instead, | the resulting name is processed as if it were the initial name. If | no MX records are found, but an A RR is found, the A RR is treated as | if it was associated with an implicit MX RR, with a preference of 0, | pointing to that host. If one or more MX RRs are found for a given | name, SMTP systems MUST NOT utilize any A RRs associated with that | name unless they are located using the MX RRs; the "implicit MX" rule | above applies only if there are no MX records present. If MX records | are present, but none of them are usable, this situation MUST be | reported as an error. which, at the time, I interpreted as sanctioning the use of CNAMEs in determining how to deliver mail. So I wrote back that the approach seems technically OK, though there may be old or broken software that won't cope (since RFC 821 didn't refer to CNAMEs at all anywhere). But on reviewing it again, I think it's referring to finding a CNAME instead of an MX -- *not* finding an MX that points to a CNAME record instead of an A record. My current copy of _DNS and BIND_ is at work, and I'm unable to fetch it (for reasons that aren't relevant to this discussion); I'm not able to find anything definitive on the situation at hand in my older 3rd edition. Can someone point me to something clearly definitive on the topic? Thanks! Peace, david -- David H. Wolfskill david at catwhisker.org Anything and everything is a (potential) cat toy. See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 195 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jxh at jxh.com Mon Jun 4 13:33:25 2007 From: jxh at jxh.com (Jim Hickstein) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 15:33:25 -0500 Subject: MX that points to CNAME instead of A? In-Reply-To: <20070604192542.GG44064@bunrab.catwhisker.org> References: <20070604192542.GG44064@bunrab.catwhisker.org> Message-ID: <46647715.4050702@jxh.com> > Can someone point me to something clearly definitive on the topic? RFC-974 page 6 has this: Note that the algorithm to delete irrelevant RRs breaks if LOCAL has a alias and the alias is listed in the MX records for REMOTE. (E.g. REMOTE has an MX of ALIAS, where ALIAS has a CNAME of LOCAL). This can be avoided if aliases are never used in the data section of MX RRs. 2821 obsoletes 974, though. My own experience with sendmail (long ago) certainly taught me to avoid using anything but a canonical name (not an alias) on the RHS of the MX. I'm still telling people this (http://www.emailthatworks.net/forum/read.php?3,35), and I list two more good reasons to avoid it, but it's not definitive. From bob at sutterfields.us Mon Jun 4 14:57:55 2007 From: bob at sutterfields.us (Bob Sutterfield) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 14:57:55 -0700 Subject: clueful home ISP recommendation? Message-ID: <362a29b90706041457l494df623h75d5e3f0e9b1b9e5@mail.gmail.com> I know this is a well-worn topic, but alas I no longer have access to those messages... I need recommendations for a clueful home connectivity provider in 95070. I'm not biased toward or away from cable or DSL or cans+string. I care mostly about download speed, since upload will be used only for occasional skype video calls with Grandma. I don't need mailboxes or web hosting, only connectivity. Comcast (incumbent cable carrier) offers 6M/384K with nice promo pricing and possible bundling with TV service. How's their history of reliability, responsiveness, service, etc. in this area? What DSL providers should I check? Which should I avoid? Other recommendations and warnings are welcome. Thanks! From cerise at armory.com Mon Jun 4 15:09:17 2007 From: cerise at armory.com (cerise at armory.com) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 15:09:17 -0700 Subject: clueful home ISP recommendation? In-Reply-To: <362a29b90706041457l494df623h75d5e3f0e9b1b9e5@mail.gmail.com> References: <362a29b90706041457l494df623h75d5e3f0e9b1b9e5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070604220917.GD8151@boogeyman> I use Speakeasy for my DSL -- a 6M/1M ADSL. I've been quite happy with it. Their support has yet to blame my linux box for their problems which have been few and far between over the last year and a half or so. I know of one bad experience with Speakeasy. Deep Thought (d.armory.com) was down for a while as the result of a DDoS attack. Their network admins added a block -- which was reasonable -- but didn't take it down until a few days later which was long after the attack had ceased. In spcecdt's words: "I can no longer recommend Speakeasy for business class 24/7 internet service." -Phil/CERisE On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 02:57:55PM -0700, Bob Sutterfield wrote: > I know this is a well-worn topic, but alas I no longer have access to > those messages... > > I need recommendations for a clueful home connectivity provider in > 95070. I'm not biased toward or away from cable or DSL or > cans+string. I care mostly about download speed, since upload will be > used only for occasional skype video calls with Grandma. I don't need > mailboxes or web hosting, only connectivity. > > Comcast (incumbent cable carrier) offers 6M/384K with nice promo > pricing and possible bundling with TV service. How's their history of > reliability, responsiveness, service, etc. in this area? > > What DSL providers should I check? Which should I avoid? > > Other recommendations and warnings are welcome. Thanks! From wolfgang at wsrcc.com Mon Jun 4 15:46:44 2007 From: wolfgang at wsrcc.com (Wolfgang S. Rupprecht) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 15:46:44 -0700 Subject: clueful home ISP recommendation? In-Reply-To: <362a29b90706041457l494df623h75d5e3f0e9b1b9e5@mail.gmail.com> References: <362a29b90706041457l494df623h75d5e3f0e9b1b9e5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <18020.38484.776177.641226@arbol.wsrcc.com> Bob Sutterfield writes: > Comcast (incumbent cable carrier) offers 6M/384K with nice promo > pricing and possible bundling with TV service. How's their history of > reliability, responsiveness, service, etc. in this area? My experience with Comcast wasn't good . It took them less than a week to break my cable modem settings when they took over from Athome. They offered to have someone out 3 weeks after that point to provide a needless truck roll for some configuration they broke from their end. > What DSL providers should I check? Which should I avoid? > Other recommendations and warnings are welcome. Thanks! www.sonic.net. They hire folks that are network knowledgeable and it shows. They also have a reasonable TOS that allows "servers" and they offer static IP addresses. Technically Comcast and ATT-dsl don't seem to allow anything listening on low-numbered ports. I don't know if this is enforced, but I wasn't about to change to a service that didn't allow at least an sshd daemon running. (ntpd and voip sip/rtp ports would be nice too, but would appear to also be verboten.) -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht http://www.wsrcc.com/wolfgang/ sip:wsr at wsrcc.com ISN: 6001*308 From michael at halligan.org Mon Jun 4 17:51:44 2007 From: michael at halligan.org (Michael T. Halligan) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 17:51:44 -0700 Subject: clueful home ISP recommendation? In-Reply-To: <362a29b90706041457l494df623h75d5e3f0e9b1b9e5@mail.gmail.com> References: <362a29b90706041457l494df623h75d5e3f0e9b1b9e5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3B30FE1E-6E93-45D3-BE59-86E068BDCBCE@halligan.org> All DSL providers suck. Any company trying to provide a service to consumers on maybe a 15% margin is going to suck. On Jun 4, 2007, at 2:57 PM, Bob Sutterfield wrote: > I know this is a well-worn topic, but alas I no longer have access to > those messages... > > I need recommendations for a clueful home connectivity provider in > 95070. I'm not biased toward or away from cable or DSL or > cans+string. I care mostly about download speed, since upload will be > used only for occasional skype video calls with Grandma. I don't need > mailboxes or web hosting, only connectivity. > > Comcast (incumbent cable carrier) offers 6M/384K with nice promo > pricing and possible bundling with TV service. How's their history of > reliability, responsiveness, service, etc. in this area? > > What DSL providers should I check? Which should I avoid? > > Other recommendations and warnings are welcome. Thanks! From eric at explosive.net Mon Jun 4 18:27:16 2007 From: eric at explosive.net (Eric Sorenson) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 18:27:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: clueful home ISP recommendation? In-Reply-To: <3B30FE1E-6E93-45D3-BE59-86E068BDCBCE@halligan.org> References: <362a29b90706041457l494df623h75d5e3f0e9b1b9e5@mail.gmail.com> <3B30FE1E-6E93-45D3-BE59-86E068BDCBCE@halligan.org> Message-ID: On Mon, 4 Jun 2007, Michael T. Halligan wrote: > All DSL providers suck. Any company trying to provide a service to consumers > on maybe a 15% margin is going to suck. I moved over to sonic.net dsl as we're turning down the explosive.net Speakeasy T1. So far I've been amazed at how well their sales, install, support and technical organizations hang together. I think the most impressive thing was when I went to check on their web "member tools" to see if I could request reverse delegation updates. Their CGI doesn't send in a support request, it actually lets you *modify the PTRs* for your delegated IPs with an apologetic message "please allow up to two hours for changes to propagate." Class act. -- - Eric Sorenson - N37 17.255 W121 55.738 - http://ahpook.vox.com/ - From sigje at sigje.org Wed Jun 6 13:55:55 2007 From: sigje at sigje.org (Jennifer Davis) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 13:55:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Technical Conference Tech Sessions Pass Message-ID: <20070606134442.I58072@slick.sigje.org> The 2007 USENIX Annual Technical conference is fast approaching. We will be having the June meeting onsite at the conference to facilitate people who are attending the conference to more easily attend our meeting, and to expose BayLISA members to the great resources available at these kind of conferences. BayLISA attendees will be able to attend the BOFs as well. We are having a raffle for one Technical Conference Tech Sessions Pass. We'll have to clarify with Anne Dickinson from USENIX if this is a 3 day pass or 1 day pass, but whatever the case, this is of great value. How do you become eligible for this raffle? 1 - Reply to this email, and let me know that you would attend. 2 - Be willing to give a review of your experience (Doesn't have to be too complicated.. just share with the rest of us BayLISAites about what the Tech conference was like). You are not required to be a BayLISA member, but BayLISA members who are interested will get 2 entries into this raffle giving them a little bit of an edge. Thank you for your continued appreciation and assistance in keeping BayLISA running with your contributions. -- Jennifer Davis BayLISA Board of Directors From bigmac at invisibleit.com Mon Jun 11 09:40:02 2007 From: bigmac at invisibleit.com (Bryan McDonald) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:40:02 -0700 Subject: clueful home ISP recommendation? In-Reply-To: <362a29b90706041457l494df623h75d5e3f0e9b1b9e5@mail.gmail.com> References: <362a29b90706041457l494df623h75d5e3f0e9b1b9e5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I have to say that I switched away from AT&T to Comcast a few months ago, and in the first week had 4 guys out to fix it, and the associate TV issues that came up, until I found a good tech, who replaced the corroding copper in the street out in front of the house...and since then it has been very consistent. I am using the 3 services, phone, Internet, and cable, working well now. Just tested the speed... Download Speed: 16024 kbps (2003 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 2649 kbps (331.1 KB/sec transfer rate) ---------- Bryan McDonald (650) 605-6455 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-baylisa at baylisa.org [mailto:owner-baylisa at baylisa.org] On > Behalf Of Bob Sutterfield > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 2:58 PM > To: baylisa at baylisa.org > Subject: clueful home ISP recommendation? > > I know this is a well-worn topic, but alas I no longer have access to > those messages... > > I need recommendations for a clueful home connectivity provider in > 95070. I'm not biased toward or away from cable or DSL or > cans+string. I care mostly about download speed, since upload will be > used only for occasional skype video calls with Grandma. I don't need > mailboxes or web hosting, only connectivity. > > Comcast (incumbent cable carrier) offers 6M/384K with nice promo > pricing and possible bundling with TV service. How's their history of > reliability, responsiveness, service, etc. in this area? > > What DSL providers should I check? Which should I avoid? > > Other recommendations and warnings are welcome. Thanks! From pmui at groundworkopensource.com Mon Jun 11 09:51:37 2007 From: pmui at groundworkopensource.com (Peter Mui) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:51:37 -0400 Subject: Reminder: BayLISA Monitoring SIG: Weds June 13, 7PM Message-ID: (Hi: Just a friendly reminder of this Wednesday's BayLISA Monitoring SIG, (Weds June 13,) 7PM. See the meeting announcement pasted below: feel free to post it and/or forward it along to anyone else who might be interested. Hope to see you there! -Peter) ================================================= June 2007 BayLISA Monitoring SIG: Nagios Configuration Made Easy Taylor Dondich, project lead for the popular Nagios administration tool Fruity (http://fruity.sourceforge.net/) will present on using and taming Nagios. (Taylor's also the author of the O'Reilly .pdf "Network Monitoring with Nagios.": http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/ networknagios/) We'll use Taylor's presentation as a launching point for a free-flowing discussion on successful deployment of Nagios (and monitoring in general.) What: BayLISA Monitoring SIG VIII: Nagios Configuration Made Easy (Hah!) Who: Anyone interested in IT monitoring issues and tools (newbies particularly welcome!) When: Wednesday, June 13 2007, 7PM Where: GroundWork Open Source, 139 Townsend St., San Francisco, http://www.groundworkopensource.com/community/ How: 139 Townsend St. is very near AT&T Park. It is two blocks from the CalTrain Depot. Take the MUNI T (or J) trolley to 2nd and King (ballpark stop) or take the 30 or 45 bus (among others) crosstown. Free evening street parking can probably be found because the Giants are playing an afternoon game that day (vs. Toronto, 12:35 start) and it should be over by the time the SIG starts. Cost: Free!! Hot from the oven pizza, cold from the fridge drinks, and artificially preserved from the factory snacks will be provided by GroundWork. We'll open up the doors at 6:30 or so and start the formal part of the meeting promptly at 7PM. RSVP (not necessary, but helpful): Peter Mui, pmui at groundworkopensource.com, 415 992 4573, ================================================= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ahorn at deorth.org Mon Jun 11 17:11:30 2007 From: ahorn at deorth.org (Alan Horn) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:11:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: BayLISA June general meeting - June 21st @Usenix tech conf. Message-ID: <20070611170335.P63359@slick.sigje.org> The June General meeting will be held onsite at the Usenix annual technical conference (2007) in Santa Clara. (You do NOT need to be attending Usenix to attend this event.) Location: San Tomas Room, Santa Clara Hyatt Regency Date: Thursday June 21st 2007 Time: 7:00-10:00pm Zimbra technical overview Kevin Henrikson, Zimbra Anand Palaniswamy Zimbra Zimbra provides an open source email, calendaring and collaboration solution for enterprises and service providers. Zimbra features a rich Ajax web UI and also supports traditional desktop clients such as Outlook and Thunderbird, as well as mobile devices. Over 1000 organizations, including H&R Block, MySQL, Mozilla, Georgia Tech University and Comcast Cable, run Zimbra for their users in deployments ranging from a single server to hundreds of blades. In this presentation, Zimbra director of engineering Kevin Henrikson and Anand Palaniswamy will provide a technical overview of Zimbra and how it's architected for large scale deployments. Winning the battle against next-generation spam Stephen Flamm - General Manager, Abaca Spam is a growing threat to companies today and a thorn to IT's side. These email attacks can result in downtime, productivity and legal liability and fraud from phishing attacks and data theft. Businesses need a solution that is proven to deliver a minimum of 99% spam filtering accuracy to reduce organizational costs. This presentation will feature today's leading anti-spam expert and focus on: * Latest tricks and devices spammers use to reach a massive audience * How to address the rapidly changing email threats * What to look for in Anti-Spam technology * How to evaluate Anti-Spam products Details also available at http://www.baylisa.org Directions to Hotel available at http://santaclara.hyatt.com/hyatt/hotels/ From ahorn at deorth.org Sun Jun 17 01:32:01 2007 From: ahorn at deorth.org (Alan Horn) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 01:32:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: REMINDER : BayLISA June general meeting - June 21st @Usenix Message-ID: <20070617013112.L63359@slick.sigje.org> The June General meeting will be held onsite at the Usenix annual technical conference (2007) in Santa Clara. (You do NOT need to be attending Usenix to attend this event, and you may also attend any other bofs that evening if you choose) Location: San Tomas Room, Santa Clara Hyatt Regency Date: Thursday June 21st 2007 Time: 7:00-10:00pm Zimbra technical overview Kevin Henrikson, Zimbra Anand Palaniswamy Zimbra Zimbra provides an open source email, calendaring and collaboration solution for enterprises and service providers. Zimbra features a rich Ajax web UI and also supports traditional desktop clients such as Outlook and Thunderbird, as well as mobile devices. Over 1000 organizations, including H&R Block, MySQL, Mozilla, Georgia Tech University and Comcast Cable, run Zimbra for their users in deployments ranging from a single server to hundreds of blades. In this presentation, Zimbra director of engineering Kevin Henrikson and Anand Palaniswamy will provide a technical overview of Zimbra and how it's architected for large scale deployments. Winning the battle against next-generation spam Stephen Flamm - General Manager, Abaca Spam is a growing threat to companies today and a thorn to IT's side. These email attacks can result in downtime, productivity and legal liability and fraud from phishing attacks and data theft. Businesses need a solution that is proven to deliver a minimum of 99% spam filtering accuracy to reduce organizational costs. This presentation will feature today's leading anti-spam expert and focus on: * Latest tricks and devices spammers use to reach a massive audience * How to address the rapidly changing email threats * What to look for in Anti-Spam technology * How to evaluate Anti-Spam products Details also available at http://www.baylisa.org Directions to Hotel available at http://santaclara.hyatt.com/hyatt/hotels/ From windsor at warthog.com Sun Jun 17 11:39:18 2007 From: windsor at warthog.com (Rob Windsor) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 13:39:18 -0500 Subject: Walk-in store to buy Cisco gear Message-ID: <46757FD6.8050807@warthog.com> Is there a good place in SFBA where I can walk in with an AmEx card and walk out with two (refurb, used, whatever) Cisco cat-2980s tomorrow (Monday)? If that isn't possible, is there a place where I can walk in and AmEx new 48-port 3560s? Thanks. Rob++ -- Internet: windsor at warthog.com __o Life: Rob at Carrollton.Texas.USA.Earth _`\<,_ (_)/ (_) "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance." -- Major General John Sedgwick From windsor at warthog.com Sun Jun 17 11:54:10 2007 From: windsor at warthog.com (Rob Windsor) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 13:54:10 -0500 Subject: Walk-in store to buy Cisco gear In-Reply-To: <46757FD6.8050807@warthog.com> References: <46757FD6.8050807@warthog.com> Message-ID: <46758352.4060607@warthog.com> Rob Windsor wrote: > Is there a good place in SFBA where I can walk in with an AmEx card and > walk out with two (refurb, used, whatever) Cisco cat-2980s tomorrow > (Monday)? > If that isn't possible, is there a place where I can walk in and AmEx > new 48-port 3560s? Er, I meant 3550s, since I don't need PoE. Rob++ -- Internet: windsor at warthog.com __o Life: Rob at Carrollton.Texas.USA.Earth _`\<,_ (_)/ (_) "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance." -- Major General John Sedgwick From benjy at feen.com Sun Jun 17 13:16:25 2007 From: benjy at feen.com (Benjamin Feen) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 13:16:25 -0700 Subject: Walk-in store to buy Cisco gear In-Reply-To: <46758352.4060607@warthog.com> References: <46757FD6.8050807@warthog.com> <46758352.4060607@warthog.com> Message-ID: <27d46a10706171316v1eb142b5q75e983be897f16e0@mail.gmail.com> The only possible place I can think of is Weird Stuff in Sunnyvale http://www.weirdstuff.com/ although back in the day, Disk Drive Depot / Dot Com Depot mighta had something. http://www.diskdepot.com/ http://www.corpsys.com/default.asp From ulf at Alameda.net Sun Jun 17 14:56:51 2007 From: ulf at Alameda.net (Ulf Zimmermann) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 14:56:51 -0700 Subject: Walk-in store to buy Cisco gear In-Reply-To: <27d46a10706171316v1eb142b5q75e983be897f16e0@mail.gmail.com> References: <46757FD6.8050807@warthog.com> <46758352.4060607@warthog.com> <27d46a10706171316v1eb142b5q75e983be897f16e0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070617215650.GK90777@evil.alameda.net> On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 01:16:25PM -0700, Benjamin Feen wrote: > The only possible place I can think of is Weird Stuff in Sunnyvale > http://www.weirdstuff.com/ > > although back in the day, Disk Drive Depot / Dot Com Depot mighta had > something. > http://www.diskdepot.com/ > http://www.corpsys.com/default.asp There is an used Cisco company on Warm Springs Blvd in Fremont, just north of Mission. I think their name was Cisco4Less, but I can't remember, just that I see them every time I drive by. -- Regards, Ulf. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-865-0204 You can find my resume at: http://www.Alameda.net/~ulf/resume.html From samlb at am-cath.org Sun Jun 17 15:46:35 2007 From: samlb at am-cath.org (Sam'l B) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 15:46:35 -0700 Subject: Walk-in store to buy Cisco gear In-Reply-To: <20070617215650.GK90777@evil.alameda.net> References: <46757FD6.8050807@warthog.com> <46758352.4060607@warthog.com> <27d46a10706171316v1eb142b5q75e983be897f16e0@mail.gmail.com> <20070617215650.GK90777@evil.alameda.net> Message-ID: <4675B9CB.9020804@am-cath.org> Cisco4less 45973 Warm Springs Blvd Unit 6 Fremont, CA 94539 Phone: 510-490-8809 Toll Free: 800-877-4084 Fax: 510-490-8801 Although www.cisco4less.com is not found -- they might not be there any more. Ulf Zimmermann wrote: > On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 01:16:25PM -0700, Benjamin Feen wrote: >> The only possible place I can think of is Weird Stuff in Sunnyvale >> http://www.weirdstuff.com/ >> >> although back in the day, Disk Drive Depot / Dot Com Depot mighta had >> something. >> http://www.diskdepot.com/ >> http://www.corpsys.com/default.asp > > There is an used Cisco company on Warm Springs Blvd in Fremont, just > north of Mission. I think their name was Cisco4Less, but I can't remember, > just that I see them every time I drive by. > From ulf at Alameda.net Sun Jun 17 16:10:16 2007 From: ulf at Alameda.net (Ulf Zimmermann) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 16:10:16 -0700 Subject: Walk-in store to buy Cisco gear In-Reply-To: <4675B9CB.9020804@am-cath.org> References: <46757FD6.8050807@warthog.com> <46758352.4060607@warthog.com> <27d46a10706171316v1eb142b5q75e983be897f16e0@mail.gmail.com> <20070617215650.GK90777@evil.alameda.net> <4675B9CB.9020804@am-cath.org> Message-ID: <20070617231016.GL90777@evil.alameda.net> On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 03:46:35PM -0700, Sam'l B wrote: > Cisco4less > 45973 Warm Springs Blvd Unit 6 > Fremont, CA 94539 > > Phone: 510-490-8809 > Toll Free: 800-877-4084 > Fax: 510-490-8801 > > > Although www.cisco4less.com is not found -- they might not be there > any more. The sign on the building was still there a few weeks ago, not sure then. > > Ulf Zimmermann wrote: > >On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 01:16:25PM -0700, Benjamin Feen wrote: > >>The only possible place I can think of is Weird Stuff in Sunnyvale > >>http://www.weirdstuff.com/ > >> > >>although back in the day, Disk Drive Depot / Dot Com Depot mighta had > >>something. > >>http://www.diskdepot.com/ > >>http://www.corpsys.com/default.asp > > > >There is an used Cisco company on Warm Springs Blvd in Fremont, just > >north of Mission. I think their name was Cisco4Less, but I can't remember, > >just that I see them every time I drive by. > > > -- Regards, Ulf. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-865-0204 You can find my resume at: http://www.Alameda.net/~ulf/resume.html From michael at halligan.org Sun Jun 17 16:23:08 2007 From: michael at halligan.org (Michael T. Halligan) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 16:23:08 -0700 Subject: Walk-in store to buy Cisco gear In-Reply-To: <46757FD6.8050807@warthog.com> References: <46757FD6.8050807@warthog.com> Message-ID: <64B76964-ABFD-450B-B368-973454301B6A@halligan.org> I seem to remember doing this a few years back at Recurrent Technologies, www.recurrent.com. They're at 3431 De La Cruz Blvd - Santa Clara, CA 95054. On Jun 17, 2007, at 11:39 AM, Rob Windsor wrote: > Is there a good place in SFBA where I can walk in with an AmEx card > and walk out with two (refurb, used, whatever) Cisco cat-2980s > tomorrow (Monday)? > > If that isn't possible, is there a place where I can walk in and > AmEx new 48-port 3560s? > > Thanks. > > Rob++ > -- > Internet: windsor at warthog.com __o > Life: Rob at Carrollton.Texas.USA.Earth _`\<,_ > (_)/ (_) > "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance." > -- Major General John Sedgwick From audities at gmail.com Sun Jun 17 16:34:45 2007 From: audities at gmail.com (Michael Coxe) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 16:34:45 -0700 Subject: Walk-in store to buy Cisco gear In-Reply-To: <46757FD6.8050807@warthog.com> References: <46757FD6.8050807@warthog.com> Message-ID: <4675C515.6030701@gmail.com> Rob Windsor wrote: > Is there a good place in SFBA where I can walk in with an AmEx card and > walk out with two (refurb, used, whatever) Cisco cat-2980s tomorrow > (Monday)? > > If that isn't possible, is there a place where I can walk in and AmEx > new 48-port 3560s? You might give Recurrent Technologies a call: 408-727-1122. They're a Cisco/Sun refurb house @ 3431 De La Cruz Blvd, Santa Clara and stock lot of Catalyst gear. - michael From windsor at warthog.com Sun Jun 17 23:12:25 2007 From: windsor at warthog.com (Rob Windsor) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 01:12:25 -0500 Subject: Walk-in store to buy Cisco gear In-Reply-To: <4675C515.6030701@gmail.com> References: <46757FD6.8050807@warthog.com> <4675C515.6030701@gmail.com> Message-ID: <46762249.7000001@warthog.com> Michael Coxe wrote: > Rob Windsor wrote: >> Is there a good place in SFBA where I can walk in with an AmEx card >> and walk out with two (refurb, used, whatever) Cisco cat-2980s >> tomorrow (Monday)? >> >> If that isn't possible, is there a place where I can walk in and AmEx >> new 48-port 3560s? > > You might give Recurrent Technologies a call: 408-727-1122. They're a > Cisco/Sun refurb house @ 3431 De La Cruz Blvd, Santa Clara and stock > lot of Catalyst gear. That seems to be the general consensus. :) Thanks all, I fired off an e-mail and they replied already. It looks like our issue was the PIX-515 instead of the catalyst. Ah, the joys of IBM-managed datacenters. :-) Anyway, I'm in Calif now, will be visiting our friends at Recurrent tomorrow. Rob++ -- Internet: windsor at warthog.com __o Life: Rob at Carrollton.Texas.USA.Earth _`\<,_ (_)/ (_) "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance." -- Major General John Sedgwick From extasia at extasia.org Tue Jun 19 07:52:53 2007 From: extasia at extasia.org (David Alban) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 07:52:53 -0700 Subject: Fwd: DSU/CSU? In-Reply-To: References: <4676E895.6080906@albertelli.com> Message-ID: <4c714a9c0706190752s2911e717n73b117ccd55d81ad@mail.gmail.com> greetings, this is the second level of fowarding. i don't know the original person, but if you can help, please respond to them at: V. M. Brasseur gracias. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: ... Date: Jun 19, 2007 6:33 AM Subject: Fwd: DSU/CSU? To: Any chance you (or someone you know) can lend a hand to a friend in need? Thanks, ... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: V. M. Brasseur Date: Jun 18, 2007 4:18 PM Subject: DSU/CSU? To: ME At Home Do these acronyms mean anything to you? Do you know any network gurus who might recognize them? Are they in the immediate Bay Area? iPost lost the T1 line to the office on Thursday afternoon[*]. Our ISP and AT&T both say that the problem is somewhere inside our offices. Swapping out the Kentrox and the Cisco router has no effect (or at least the same result occurs with different machinery), so that hardware is clean. We've reached the point where we've ordered new cables on the very slim chance that something is wrong there. If nothing else we'll have ruled out yet another bit of hardware so it won't be a total waste. What we really need is a specialist to come and have a look. Our Director of IT (who is now inconveniently out of town) made calls all day Friday and could find no one who knows this stuff. We're learning the hard way that this skillset it not common. Does anyone know someone in the networking world who is familiar with this kind of low down and dirty nitty gritty stuff? We would be very very interested in talking to them and, of course, paying them for their time. Thanks for any leads... [*] We've been running on DSL backup since then, which comes with its own set of problems. Those we can work around. The DSU/CSU stuff we can't. -- http://firststep.vmbrasseur.com -- Live in a world of your own, but always welcome visitors. From tony at usenix.org Tue Jun 19 10:16:02 2007 From: tony at usenix.org (Tony Del Porto) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:16:02 -0700 Subject: DSU/CSU? In-Reply-To: <4c714a9c0706190752s2911e717n73b117ccd55d81ad@mail.gmail.com> References: <4676E895.6080906@albertelli.com> <4c714a9c0706190752s2911e717n73b117ccd55d81ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2797903F-503F-49A9-80DA-EBD3ED72300B@usenix.org> On Jun 19, 2007, at 7:52 AM, David Alban wrote: > Do these acronyms mean anything to you? The DSU/CSU as I understand it is kinda like a modem in that it translates the signaling from the high capacity T1 line to serial signaling. It sounds like the "Kentrox"[1] is the hardware in question. The first thing I'd suggest is performing a loopback test on the local line. See: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/471/hard_loopback.html If the loopback tests work, then the problem might be internal building wiring. If the line is in an office building the source of the problem might be between the office and the Main Point Of Entry. That usually happens when phone techs muck about and dislodge things. AT&T/your ISP have probably already ruled this out with their own loop-back test. If AT&T/the ISP did a loop-back test successfully, and the local loopback test works, then the issue is likely the cable connecting the DSU/CSU to the smart jack on the wall. Ideally that cable will be as short as possible. I've had problems when using cables longer than 20 feet, and there is a recommended maximum length that I disremember. That might be loopback testable by using an RJ-45 to RJ-45 connector and loopback plug at the end of the cable that normally plugs into the wall jack. There is a handy book from O'Reilly on the subject that might suggest avenues of inquiry. It does go into the nitty gritty of how T1 and other WAN lines work. http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/t1survival/ And of course, the first avenue of inquiry is always "what changed?". Was there a router software upgrade on either end; a hardware change, etc? Disclaimer: IANACCAnything; the above is just from personal experience dealing with T1 lines in our office. HTH, Tony Del Porto SysAdmin USENIX Association 2560 9th Street, Suite 215, Berkeley CA 94710 tony at usenix.org | www.usenix.org | www.sage.org http://www.usenix.org/about/tonyd.gpgkey [1] http://www.kentrox.com/products/dserv%5Ft1/ From pat at powerville.net Tue Jun 19 12:21:08 2007 From: pat at powerville.net (Patrick Power) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 12:21:08 -0700 Subject: Dedicated Hosting recommendations. Message-ID: <000001c7b2a6$ffaf43e0$c31c140a@powerville.net> Hi all, I'm looking for some options/recommendations for dedicated hosting (a rack to place a number our machines). We are located in Santa Clara, so the closer the better (for me). Thanks in advance, -pat From michael at halligan.org Tue Jun 19 16:40:28 2007 From: michael at halligan.org (Michael T. Halligan) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 16:40:28 -0700 Subject: Dedicated Hosting recommendations. In-Reply-To: <000001c7b2a6$ffaf43e0$c31c140a@powerville.net> References: <000001c7b2a6$ffaf43e0$c31c140a@powerville.net> Message-ID: On Jun 19, 2007, at 12:21 PM, Patrick Power wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm looking for some options/recommendations for dedicated > hosting (a rack to place a number our machines). We are > located in Santa Clara, so the closer the better (for me). > What you're actually looking for is Colocation. Dedicated Hosting means that you're renting the servers from your provider. That being said, Your best choice is Steve Rubin over at layer42, they're in Santa Clara. His e-mail address is ser at layer42.net. I sometimes think he's the only honest guy doing colo in the bay area. > Thanks in advance, > -pat > > > From alexei.rodriguez at gmail.com Tue Jun 19 16:42:11 2007 From: alexei.rodriguez at gmail.com (Alexei Rodriguez) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 16:42:11 -0700 Subject: Dedicated Hosting recommendations. In-Reply-To: <000001c7b2a6$ffaf43e0$c31c140a@powerville.net> References: <000001c7b2a6$ffaf43e0$c31c140a@powerville.net> Message-ID: I've used HE before and it was ok. Security in the shared racks was a bit lax. layer42 has gotten thumbs-up from friends that use them: http://www.layer42.com/services.html Alexei On 6/19/07, Patrick Power wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm looking for some options/recommendations for dedicated > hosting (a rack to place a number our machines). We are > located in Santa Clara, so the closer the better (for me). > > Thanks in advance, > -pat > > > > From jxh at jxh.com Tue Jun 19 18:52:01 2007 From: jxh at jxh.com (Jim Hickstein) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 20:52:01 -0500 Subject: Dedicated Hosting recommendations. In-Reply-To: References: <000001c7b2a6$ffaf43e0$c31c140a@powerville.net> Message-ID: <46788841.6040908@jxh.com> > they're in Santa Clara. His e-mail address is ser at layer42.net. I sometimes > think he's the only honest guy doing colo in the bay area. Well, since we're going public with our responses, I have to say I like svcolo.com. I've been with them for over 6 years. They possess Clue, among other sterling qualities. They get a significant chunk of the credit for my own high service reliability. In the bay area, you're spoiled for choice, in fact. I was shopping in Boston, and while there may be enough honesty and Clue to go around (I know a couple of them personally from years ago), the price umbrella didn't get reset in the depression. I left my stuff with SVcolo after all, because even to fly there from time to time, it's still cheaper. I'm in .mn.us, but some of my business partners are in Boston. None of us is in California any more. The best part is, we think it actually improves our total uptime, since we can't as easily go tamper with it at the weekends. :-) From michael at halligan.org Wed Jun 20 17:18:07 2007 From: michael at halligan.org (Michael T. Halligan) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:18:07 -0700 Subject: Dedicated Hosting recommendations. In-Reply-To: References: <000001c7b2a6$ffaf43e0$c31c140a@powerville.net> Message-ID: On Jun 19, 2007, at 4:40 PM, Michael T. Halligan wrote: > > On Jun 19, 2007, at 12:21 PM, Patrick Power wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I'm looking for some options/recommendations for dedicated >> hosting (a rack to place a number our machines). We are >> located in Santa Clara, so the closer the better (for me). >> > > What you're actually looking for is Colocation. Dedicated Hosting > means that you're renting the servers from your provider. > That being said, Your best choice is Steve Rubin over at layer42, > they're in Santa Clara. His e-mail address is ser at layer42.net. I > sometimes > think he's the only honest guy doing colo in the bay area. > Actually, Dennis Nugent, dennis at wcix.net is also a really good guy to talk to. He's got a large space I think at Switch & Data that he sells bandwidth and colo out of. He might also have space in Equinix, too, but don't quite me on that. > >> Thanks in advance, >> -pat >> >> >> > From bill at wards.net Mon Jun 25 10:52:52 2007 From: bill at wards.net (Bill Ward) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 10:52:52 -0700 Subject: PenLUG this week - VoIP/Asterisk with Dr Sameer Verma Message-ID: <3d2fe1780706251052v525e0fd4t22a25870547fdc6@mail.gmail.com> Note: this is the third month in our NEW LOCATION sponsored by Qualys. Date: Thursday, June 28th, 2007 Time: meeting 7:00 - 9:00 PM, social/networking until 10 PM Location: Bayshore Technology Park 1300 Island Drive Redwood City, CA 94065 Suite 106 - Training Room Dr. Sameer Verma, Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) using Asterisk. This presentation will cover the design of VoIP for a small-business scenario. It will cover configuration and use of AstLinux using 1) a bootable CD and a USB Flash key, 2) Soekris net4801 embedded x86 platform. The presentation will also touch on other Asterisk distros such as TrixBox, which supports many additional features such as billing, CRM etc. Dr. Sameer Verma is Associate Professor of Information Systems at San Francisco State University. His research focuses on the diffusion and adoption of innovative technologies. He is currently working on several academic research projects which include the diffusion of open source software, wireless networks, and geo-spatial systems. In addition to his academic work, Dr. Verma has worked with companies in consulting capacity in the areas of content analysis, management and delivery. Dr. Verma also serves on the advisory boards of some SF Bay Area technology companies. Dr. Verma's first exposure to Linux was in 1997. He currently runs Linux on his laptop at work, servers and workstations in his lab, desktop at home, media center behind the bookshelf at home, and the PDA in his pocket. RSVP * Although it is not required, we like to have an idea of how many people to expect, so if possible please email rsvp at penlug.org if you are planning to attend. From dsmith at FinancialEngines.com Thu Jun 28 07:49:45 2007 From: dsmith at FinancialEngines.com (David Smith) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 07:49:45 -0700 Subject: Comparing linux boxes for differences? Message-ID: <17D60EFECB2C044097D6C4336DD8ED75010C5029@INF-EXCH-SJC-01.fngn.com> We need to come up with a quick way to audit that our servers are consistent across our infrastructure. I figure I could hack out a quick script do so some md5sums across various key files, software installed, etc, but I would rather not re-event the wheel. I thought there might be some sort of product out there that might accomplish this without too much effort. I'd rather avoid a large/costly tripwire for server/tripwire manager implementation. All our systems are very light weight/minimal installs and are built automatically. Thanks, Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From heatherf at stanford.edu Thu Jun 28 08:42:21 2007 From: heatherf at stanford.edu (Heather Flanagan) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 08:42:21 -0700 Subject: Comparing linux boxes for differences? In-Reply-To: <17D60EFECB2C044097D6C4336DD8ED75010C5029@INF-EXCH-SJC-01.fngn.com> References: <17D60EFECB2C044097D6C4336DD8ED75010C5029@INF-EXCH-SJC-01.fngn.com> Message-ID: <1675ABA3-950B-454F-B787-01DF00F13DA0@stanford.edu> You said "quick" and "audit" in the same sentence. I'm not sure that's legal. ;-) How many servers are you trying to compare? How open is your network? Can you easily install client software without having to manually go to each system? Heather Flanagan Director, UNIX Systems & Applications heatherf at stanford.edu On Jun 28, 2007, at 7:49 AM, David Smith wrote: > We need to come up with a quick way to audit that our servers are > consistent across our infrastructure. I figure I could hack out a > quick script do so some md5sums across various key files, software > installed, etc, but I would rather not re-event the wheel. > > > > I thought there might be some sort of product out there that might > accomplish this without too much effort. I?d rather avoid a large/ > costly tripwire for server/tripwire manager implementation. All > our systems are very light weight/minimal installs and are built > automatically. > > > > Thanks, > > Dave > > > > > > > > From asheesh at asheesh.org Thu Jun 28 12:59:08 2007 From: asheesh at asheesh.org (Asheesh Laroia) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 15:59:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Comparing linux boxes for differences? In-Reply-To: <17D60EFECB2C044097D6C4336DD8ED75010C5029@INF-EXCH-SJC-01.fngn.com> References: <17D60EFECB2C044097D6C4336DD8ED75010C5029@INF-EXCH-SJC-01.fngn. com> Message-ID: On Thu, 28 Jun 2007, David Smith wrote: > I thought there might be some sort of product out there that might > accomplish this without too much effort. I'd rather avoid a > large/costly tripwire for server/tripwire manager implementation. All > our systems are very light weight/minimal installs and are built > automatically. Use software like Tripwire that isn't Tripwire-brand, I'd say. I don't currently use it, but I hear good things about Samhain , which has an optional client-server mode for centralized integrity checking; that seems like it would be exactly what you'd want. AIDE and Integrit also seem good, but I don't know if they have a server mode that centralizes the checking. -- Asheesh. -- Dying is a very dull, dreary affair. My advice to you is to have nothing whatever to do with it. -- W. 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