server quote sanity check, please?

[Alvin Oga]

hi ya strata

On Mon, 10 Jan 2005, Strata R. Chalup wrote:
 
> retail.  I know vendors have to pay their own bills, but I would think
> that they'd get a wholesale advantage that would offset online retail
> pricing.

"wholesale" pricing for cpu/memory/disks ia bout 5% difference
between retail and wholesale for say 100 pieces 
	- dell/ibm/hp that buys 1,000,000 units might get a better 
	price break

"online webstores" can be 10%-25% cheaper than other webstores

	- sometimes they have it in stock, sometimes ( usually ) not
	in stock at that "lower price"  ( bait-n-switch )
	( i assume everybody calls in their order by phone vs giving,
	( the webstore all the info they need to place your order
	( to confirm availability and price and shipping date

	- watch out for stores that do NOT carry inventory even
	if everything you want is listed and priced

- supermicro, in general, is good mb ... :-) ( you pay for what you get )
 	( that the serverworks chipset is good )


$ 275	> 1 x Supermicro X5DPA-GG Serverboard -
	> http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon/E7501/X5DPA-GG.cfm

$1400	> 2 x Intel XEON 3.2GHz 533MHz 1MB processor
		( why not use FSB800 cpu ?? )

$  60	> 2 x Inttel XEON processor fan

	- if downtime is to be avoided:
		= avoid systems with only 1 cpu fan
		= avoid systems with single point of failures ( of fans )
		( ie..those silly paper to guide air from the one blowerfan )

	- $100 - $150 in additional fans is a good thing and to cool the 
	memory and disks

$1200	> 4 x 1GB PC2100 ECC Registered - Kingston# KVR266X72RC25/1GD
	==
	== note that 1GD is dual-bank and probablyonly works with AMD cpu
	==
on mb	> 1 x Integrated ATI Rage XL Graphics
on mb	> 1 x Integrated Dual Intel Gigabit Ethernet Controllers
$ 40	> 1 x Maxtor 40GB 133/7200 IDE Hard Disk
$ 225	> 2 x Maxtor 250GB 133/7200 IDE Hard Disk
$  12	> 1 x 1.44MB Floppy Disk
$  60	> 1 x Slim IDE CD-ROM Drive

	> 1 x Supermicro 1U Rackmount Chassis w/ 420watts power -
	> http://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/1U/811/SC811i-420.cfm

$  50	get a good 420W power supply or 500+ .. ( avoid cheap ps )
$ 250	generic 1U chassis
------	---------------------
$ 3572	parts-off-the shelf-from any tom-dick-n-harry website

	labor costs to order all them parts 
	labor costs to build, install, test
	labor costs to return bad parts 

c ya
alvin