802.11G access point recommendations?
Michael T. Halligan
michael at halligan.org
Sat Aug 7 12:37:51 PDT 2004
On Sat, 7 Aug 2004, Chuck Yerkes wrote:
> Quoting Michael T. Halligan (michael at halligan.org):
> > I'm looking to throw a couple of ap's at each end of my apartment to make
> > sure we have good wireless throughout. I'd rather not spend more than
> > $200-$300 per access port (preferrably 1/2 that). My thoughts on
> > security are I'd just like to use WEP, and limit MAC addresses. Does
> > anybody have a good recommendation for something like this?
>
> 2 quick options:
> a) The Apple Airport (extreme = "g") was non-ugly enough for my
> ex-architect/currnet system admin parter to allow it in the
> living room.
> An Apple Airport Express (wired in or no) ($130) allows you
> to EXTEND the wireless. And it lets you plug it into a stereo
> to stream music. Still figuring out if BSD and the "daap" stuff
> can speak to it because I don't want to control it from a mac.
>
> You likely want an external antenna option. http://www.netgate.com
> has been a great resource - small knowledgable and responsive
> company (except a week when they went on vacation). I buy
> antenna and cards from them.
Question on the apples.. Can the airport express act like an 802.11g bridge, so
I could put an airport base in my office, then an airport express in my
living room and hopefully get total coverage (1800 square foot
apartment) ? Apple's site isn't very clear about that. One of my
reasons for using 802.11g is I want to toy around with streaming video
to laptops, I've got a couple of fibre channel jbods I'm thinking of
throwing 14 146gb drives into, and using it as an overkill media server
(I'd like to put my entire dvd/cd collection on my lan and not have to
worry about using/finding media).
>
> b) mentioned was the Soekris box.
> I have a couple, I've thrown them out as dedicated DNS appliances.
> As secondaries, they boot from a readonly compact flash and run
> unix. I've gotten it down to 8MB as a wireless AP. With 64MB
> of CF (the smallest CF's I readily find), you get ssh, a little
> web serving and what not. From a readonly Unix. Lose power?
> Who cares? I used a little battery jumpstart thing as a UPS
> on it for a while.
> 2-3 Ethernets + 1-2 wireless. You won't pass more than 40mb/s
> through it in practice.
> Clearly I like my Soekris a lot.
> They all have a miniPCI slot, some of them have PCMCIA slot(s), others PCI.
>
> With a good pair of antenna, I can get pretty solid coverage.
> (and one was throwing about half a mile to a neighborhood uplink
> at full power/speed).
>
> SPEED:
> 54Mb/s (or 11Mb/s for b) is the amount of data that leaves the
> radios under ideal conditions, not the amount coming INTO the card
> or leaving the card. The DATA within is about half that. So the
> actual DATA throughput you get from a "G" is around 25mb/s (b=6Mb/s).
>
> Both of these are faster than my Internet connection. So that's
> fine. On occasions, I need to sync a big laptop with a house machine
> (eg. hurl all the mp3s onto the laptop when making a trip) so I'll
> just use a wire and use GigE (~300mb/s > 25mb/s).
>
>
> WEP:
> WEP is clearly crap as david mentioned. Like speaking piglatin in
> a restaurant to keep people from listening. LEAP helps a little
> (spins keys faster). IPSec or even PPTP to the "house server"
> provides actual security. The house server can do IPSec math just fine.
>
> Until I messed up my IPSec setup (on the do to list), I allowed a
> slow port 80 to strangers and everything if you were coming from
> an IPSec connection. SMTP always requires authentication.
>
> 802.11i has been ratified and I know nothing about it except it
> supposedly deals with the WEP flaws.
>
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